This article is part of a series on the TOGETHER trial. More articles from this series here. Looks like the TOGETHER ivermectin paper in the New England Journal of Medicine has been updated (again). There is a new research summary added, which contains a limitations section—57 words all in all, but so much to talk about.
Thanks for so carefully dissecting and elaborating on the efforts being made by the TOGETHER investigators to wiggle out of the scientific misconduct (or criminal misconduct) corner they have backed themselves into with their lies and obfuscations.
Keep digging that hole, PI's. How does it feel to know you've been caught creating a false narrative that could kill thousands? What will your children think of you?
May 10, 2022·edited May 10, 2022Liked by Alexandros Marinos
You see Alexandros they had to write that because the alternative doesn’t make for very good reading:
“Our expert clinicians in designing this trial laughably chose 1 dose, on the laughable basis of that is what is used to treat a different condition. Advocacy groups which included non-medically trained members of the public could even recognise the laughable nature of this incompetence, so therefore we had to change it to the lowest dose possible in order to minimise the chance of a positive result.
Additionally the Brazilian health authorities unfortunately do not have medical degrees we recognise but despite this we reluctantly acknowledged their recommendation for the public to take Ivermectin to treat covid. Almost certainly this did not effect the outcome of the study because we predetermined that Ivermectin doesn’t work anyway, and therefore it could not possibly change the results”
I emailed Ed Mills when I read the protocol in clinicaltrials.gov about the insufficient dosing of IVM.. So, I guess that makes me my very own advocacy group - or a paramedic.
Honestly, the whole "advocacy" group sounds a bit like whining from researchers that they were being negged and caved in, which honestly would be a very weak basis for changing their protocol.
Not sure if you've looked into the mechanism of action of ivermectin Alexandros, but the PAXLOVID issue of viral rebound is making me wonder if ivermectin actually serves as a possible protease inhibitor. I haven't looked too deeply into ivermectin so I was just curious if you were aware of the different mechanisms of action.
The Journals have soiled themselves like the public health experts have. They too will have to claw their way back from the pit of deceit and capture, to ever be trusted again.
Alexandros, thank you for being a truth warrior. There is no greater virtue than standing up against evil. Don't stop fighting for truth. God will protect you.
Did you know that the Together Trial is sponsored by the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation?
'Grant information: The TOGETHER Trial is supported by the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation [INV-019641]. Overall trial infrastructure is also supported by the Rainwater Foundation, with additional funding support from FastGrants for current evaluations of trial interventions. Future evaluations of interventions may be supported by other funding organizations. The funders have no role in the conduct, interpretation, or dissemination of the study findings' https://gatesopenresearch.org/articles/5-117
Thanks for so carefully dissecting and elaborating on the efforts being made by the TOGETHER investigators to wiggle out of the scientific misconduct (or criminal misconduct) corner they have backed themselves into with their lies and obfuscations.
Keep digging that hole, PI's. How does it feel to know you've been caught creating a false narrative that could kill thousands? What will your children think of you?
You see Alexandros they had to write that because the alternative doesn’t make for very good reading:
“Our expert clinicians in designing this trial laughably chose 1 dose, on the laughable basis of that is what is used to treat a different condition. Advocacy groups which included non-medically trained members of the public could even recognise the laughable nature of this incompetence, so therefore we had to change it to the lowest dose possible in order to minimise the chance of a positive result.
Additionally the Brazilian health authorities unfortunately do not have medical degrees we recognise but despite this we reluctantly acknowledged their recommendation for the public to take Ivermectin to treat covid. Almost certainly this did not effect the outcome of the study because we predetermined that Ivermectin doesn’t work anyway, and therefore it could not possibly change the results”
Doesn’t quite have the same ring to it does it?
I emailed Ed Mills when I read the protocol in clinicaltrials.gov about the insufficient dosing of IVM.. So, I guess that makes me my very own advocacy group - or a paramedic.
Sounds like what you get when corporate PR helps edit a science study.
Honestly, the whole "advocacy" group sounds a bit like whining from researchers that they were being negged and caved in, which honestly would be a very weak basis for changing their protocol.
Not sure if you've looked into the mechanism of action of ivermectin Alexandros, but the PAXLOVID issue of viral rebound is making me wonder if ivermectin actually serves as a possible protease inhibitor. I haven't looked too deeply into ivermectin so I was just curious if you were aware of the different mechanisms of action.
The Journals have soiled themselves like the public health experts have. They too will have to claw their way back from the pit of deceit and capture, to ever be trusted again.
Excellent dissection of this ludicrous new addition to an error-filled study.
‘Are there groups of paramedics, going around in ambulances, throwing pills at people?’ Love the comic relief!
Alexandros, thank you for being a truth warrior. There is no greater virtue than standing up against evil. Don't stop fighting for truth. God will protect you.
Yes please Alexandros continue digging. We can’t thank you enough!
Did you know that the Together Trial is sponsored by the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation?
'Grant information: The TOGETHER Trial is supported by the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation [INV-019641]. Overall trial infrastructure is also supported by the Rainwater Foundation, with additional funding support from FastGrants for current evaluations of trial interventions. Future evaluations of interventions may be supported by other funding organizations. The funders have no role in the conduct, interpretation, or dissemination of the study findings' https://gatesopenresearch.org/articles/5-117
I'll never trust any clinical trial again.