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In addition:

I'm surprised how much Scott Alexander distorts Merino's study when he describes it. As if he hadn't read it.

SA's claim 1: "if you called a hotline and said you had COVID, they sent you an emergency kit".

That is not what the study says. Patients who received a positive test for a test were *given* a kit (under certain conditions.) SA seems to be making a confusion with the phone *monitoring* a subset of the patients were offered: they were called a few days after they had received a positive test, to check how they felt and to advise them to go to hospital according to the description they gave of their own health state.

SA's claim 2: "18,074 people got the kit"

Inaccurate : 83,000 patients got hte kit, out of whom 77,381 were included in the study. Among whom 18,074 received a monitoring phone call.

SA's claim 3: "Their control group is people from before they started giving out the kits, people from after they stopped giving out the kits, and people who didn’t want the kits."

Where does that come from? Mexico didn't stop giving out the kits (not right after the study, at least). Here's what the study mentions: "The control group are positive symptomatic patients, from 23 November to 28 December, and the treated group are positive symptomatic patients from 28 December to 28 January."

(The City of Mexico started delivering the kits to any person who tested positive — under certain conditions — as from Dec 28th 2020)

SA's claim 4: "There are differences in who got COVID early in the epidemic vs. later, and in people who did opt for medical kits vs. didn’t. To correct these, the researchers tried to adjust for confounders"

The reasons the authors adjusted for confounders are not exactly the ones SA mentions. Unlike SA is suggesting, there is no "early in the pandemic" involved in the study : the time difference between control group and treated group is exactly 1 month: Nov 23-Dec 28 2020 for the control group, and Dec 28 2020-Jan 28 2021 for the treated group.

Besides — and this has nothing to do with Scott Alexander — thanks to your paper, I've just found out that Merino's paper has been withdrawn by the preprint server where it had been published. And the reasons are incredible: https://socopen.org/2022/02/04/on-withdrawing-ivermectin-and-the-odds-of-hospitalization-due-to-covid-19-by-merino-et-al/

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> But, we now know that when tested in the real world, well, it’s not true. RCTs don't seem to yield more information than observational studies.

There are famous counter-examples like hormone replacement therapy: https://archive.ph/lCCwf

Cochrane does try to integrate non-RCTs but with care: https://training.cochrane.org/handbook/current/chapter-14#section-14-2

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